To turn or not to turn

[Kafn8td]

Putting new pads on the Cobra and changing the fluid out. Should I turn the rotors? The Cobra rotors are quality stuff and I've heard both yes and no. I don' have any vibrations or pulsing.

John? Mikey?

edit - I figure I might as well throw braided lines on there also. Anyone have a source?

[mcafferty]

option 3 replace with Swiss cheese and slotted one they do well in this climate

[Smooth]

Turn 'em. You should at least have 'em done to break the glaze.

[Kafn8td]

option 3 replace with Swiss cheese and slotted one they do well in this climate

Thought about it, but no reason to (other than the bling factor).

I've read a few posts on other boards that say to use a green scotch brite pad to break the glaze. If they are not pulsing or vibrating, no reason to turn them. I duuno?

[FASTANG]

If they are not pulsing or vibrating, no reason to turn them. I duuno?

That's my take on the subject too.
If it's not needed, why do it (unless it improves performance, of course)

[Smooth]

Personally, I never replace pads without having my rotors done. I'm not sure how you brake the glaze with Scotchbrite pads...not saying it can't be done though. I like to know that I have a fresh, true surface to work with. Carquest or whatever that place is behind DQ does 'em for $15 each.

[Kafn8td]

Cheap enough to turn them that's for sure. Scotch brite will break the glaze easy enough, I've done that before when I just didn't care (94 Grand Cherokee with 130 miles). LOL

One of the posts I read talked about when you turn them it promotes warpage (due to being thinner), they don't dissapate heat as well, blah blah blah. I don't think I hammer on them hard enough to matter, but thought I'd ask.

[Smooth]

One of the posts I read talked about when you turn them it promotes warpage (due to being thinner), they don't dissapate heat as well
I s'pose that could be true. I know I never get going fast enough to really heat 'em up during braking anyway. Remember, our car's yellow.:)

[OrangeFox]

I would turn the rotors if you are replacing the pads, just to get the ridges or anything off the rotors. Will keep the new pads nicer as well. Shouldn't have a big problem with warpage either because your car doesn't have a ton of miles on it and they have never been turned before. They should only have to take off about 3 thousandths anyways.

[Kafn8td]

Will do...anyone wanna help? Going to put speed bleeders on, Porterfield R4s pads and probably braided lines up front.

[BlownSVT]

what kind of pads are you going with? oem? i am in need of some new pads this spring and i have heard people have problems with some of the after market pads.

[Kafn8td]

Porterfield R4-S. http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/pads.html

[OrangeFox]

When you planning on doing it Rick? I could take your rotors to work and turn them for you one day.

[Video_Master]

Porterfield R4-S. http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/pads.html

Where do you get them from?

[Kafn8td]

Thanks Jon that's quite the offer! Maybe I have something I can trade... :)

Pretty much anyone that carries brakes can get them. I have been told, but don't know if it's true is they are a huge manufacturer and they make a majority of the different brand name pads. They also a large sponsor of a lot of the amerature racing scene on the west coast.

[Video_Master]

Hmmm, can't find them on Jegs or Summit. I will have to check around to other stores. How does those compare to the Hawk HPS pads?

[No1Ford]

Will do...anyone wanna help? Going to put speed bleeders on, Porterfield R4s pads and probably braided lines up front.

So what day are you planning on? Get them turn or you be sorry after about 4000 miles or so.

[Kafn8td]

So what day are you planning on? Get them turn or you be sorry after about 4000 miles or so.

Should have them next week. Might rip it apart next weekend.

I don't think I have ever turned rotors on a car :haha: A certain foreign car that shall remain nameless had over 100,000 miles on the original brakes when I replaced the pads on it and sold it at 230,000 with those brakes still on it. The jeep I spoke of earlier had 2 sets without ever having the rotors (or rear drums) turned.

[GMan]

Yo Kaf, When are you gonna do this? I may want to help.

[Kafn8td]

Going to try and clean the garage today. Might even get the cover off and get it up in the air.

[GMan]

:uhoh: Yo Rick. It is Sunday morning and we are still in Wisconsin. Won't make it home until 5PM or so. We have Gopher Hockey tickets, for tonight as the Bucked Tooth Rodents lost last night and need to play the extra game Sunday night. I would love to help you with the brakes though.

[Shadowgray03]

Just be carefull ive heard that ifyou get air in the lines its a real b$%#h due to the ABS.

[Kafn8td]

Thanks Larry...probably too late though...uh oh!

[crazyfoci]

bleeding them aint that bad. just takes patience (which I have alot of). you should turn em but I dont think itll kill ya not to make sure to save those old pads though cause they still good

[Dustin]

Rick -

Have you done this project yet ? if not, if you'd like an extra hand, feel free to call me / pm me, and i'll drive over after work later this week if you'd like.

~Dustin

[Kafn8td]

Well took the red rocket out last night and "seated" the brakes.

First thing I noticed is less effort in braking. 2nd thing I noticed, ABS is very easy to activate now. LOL

They stop better than the stockers without question, with less effort. All we have to do now is see if their claim of less dust is true!

[OrangeFox]

So you didn't turn the rotors then?

[Kafn8td]

No, decided not to. It was split about 50/50 on the best course of action, so I decided not to. If the wobble or do something weird I can have them off in about a half an hour and can have them turned.

So far they are operating better than stock. We will see in the long run.

[Video_Master]

How has the brake dust been so far? Also how many miles have you put on since you changed the pads?

[Kafn8td]

Enough miles to seat the brakes and thats it.

[Video_Master]

ok, please keep us informed as I am holding off ordering my new pads till I hear your results with these pads.

[Kafn8td]

Will do. I'll also keep ya updated on how the rotors hold up.

[Video_Master]

awesome thanks Rick.

[Kafn8td]

Put 60 miles on it yesterday. Stop and go, a few high speed stoppies, freeway etc.

They work great and stop way better than stock. No noise at all. Doesn't seem to matter cold or hot, they stop the same. Dust level is probably the same as stock. Maybe a little less, however I was told by a friend that the dust level goes down with a little wear.

[Kafn8td]

update - They are earning a "B" average, with the stock brakes being a B-. Stop a little better and a little less dust. They do make a little noise at very low speed (less than 5 mph) but so did my stock brakes.

[Grenade]

update - They are earning a "B" average, with the stock brakes being a B-. Stop a little better and a little less dust. They do make a little noise at very low speed (less than 5 mph) but so did my stock brakes.

Nice info, I need to replace my stockers for the track day in june.

[Kafn8td]

Update #2. Decided that the brakes were not seating properly. Had the rotors turned and scuffed the pads up.

They are now earning an "A" and are close to an "A+"!

[Shadowgray03]

Where did you end up sourcing lines?

[Smooth]

Update #2. Decided that the brakes were not seating properly. Had the rotors turned and scuffed the pads up.

They are now earning an "A" and are close to an "A+"!
Hate to say it, but, ah nevermind.:)