Diablo vs X-Cal2

[HiPo]

Any thoughts on which type of tuner is more flexible, or if there are some applications that one is better suited for than the other?
FYI, my app is a '04 Cobra that I'm looking at putting my first mods on. I'm looking at JLT CAI, Borla Stinger cat-back, and a hiflow catted X-pipe.

[Video_Master]

Either one will get the job done for you unless you want to start playing with tuning yourself. If you want to start playing with tuning yourself get teh Xcal2.

[moddedmystic]

Get the Predator!
You can data log with the Predator, you cant with the Xcal.

~Mark

[manster]

you can datalog with both of them the diablo is more people friendly the sct allows for more changes during tunning. In the twin city ther is only one shop that deals with sct

[Shadowgray03]

you can datalog with both of them the diablo is more people friendly the sct allows for more changes during tunning. In the twin city ther is only one shop that deals with sctI know DB does SCT and I beleive RJR does as well.

The SCT software also has access to certain parameters that diablo doesnt.

[HiPo]

I know DB does SCT and I beleive RJR does as well.

The SCT software also has access to certain parameters that diablo doesnt.

Such as wide-band O2 sensors?

[Shadowgray03]

Such as wide-band O2 sensors?One value I know for sure is the MAP count. The cobras only have a 2 bar map sensor so they peg at approx 15psi boost. When they peg it causes an instant drop in fuel pressure. With the SCT software the MAP counts can be raised so the sensor never pegs and thus the fuel pressure drop and associated lag can be eliminated.

[Kafn8td]

Not sure who told you that the MAP count can't be adjusted through the Predator, but mine is.

[manster]

that is true becuase you are special :worship: :worship: :worship:

[Video_Master]

It is a newer thing that is on the predator to be able to adjust the MAP counts. As for the wideband O2's all you do is turn the rear ones off. Then if you want a wideband you purchase an aftermarket setup like the DynoJet Wide Band Commander and that can do even more logging of parameters for you to send to your tuner.

[Shadowgray03]

Not sure who told you that the MAP count can't be adjusted through the Predator, but mine is.RWTD shared the information. Whats the adjustment range on your predator for the MAP sensor?

[Kafn8td]

Not sure, I was told they "maxed" it out. I never had any issue with the hesitation, even before James figured out how to do it.

[Shadowgray03]

Not sure, I was told they "maxed" it out. I never had any issue with the hesitation, even before James figured out how to do it.If your not able to instantly peg 15+psi then you likely wouldnt have had an issue. Its also my understanding that Diablo has incorporated the MAP count parameter into the software for the QUD2, YDH0 and YDH1 EEC's but have not for the HSF0 or the AMZ1 & AMZ2 EEC's. Its not something the eaton cars had much of a problem with. I dont have specifics but I have heard from tuners familiar with both that the SCT software has parameters Diablo does not. This likely wont be an issue for an eaton car but if you running some more radical mods I would opt for the company that gives its tuners access to more parameters.

[FoundOnRoadDead]

In stead of wasting a bunch of time and money trying to reprogram your wide band O2's or turing them off, buy some O2 simulators, it will tell your computer that you have a perfect sticometric ratio (fuel to air ratio) and then all you have to do is adjust your fuel parameters

[Shadowgray03]

In stead of wasting a bunch of time and money trying to reprogram your wide band O2's or turing them off, buy some O2 simulators, it will tell your computer that you have a perfect sticometric ratio (fuel to air ratio) and then all you have to do is adjust your fuel parametersHuh? You dont reprogram wide band O2's and stock mustangs dont even have wide band O2's in them, they have narrow band O2's.

As for wasting time and money turning them off, if your getting a tune done by someone else or if you already have a tuner it doesnt cost anything to have the rear O2's turned off where as last time I checked MIL eliminators did cost money AND take time to install.

[cobraboy325]

sounds like a good plan not actually tuning your car but "tricking" your computer into thinking something. I think I would rather have a tune in the first place.
CB

[Video_Master]

sounds like a good plan not actually tuning your car but "tricking" your computer into thinking something. I think I would rather have a tune in the first place.
CB

You do know that MIL Eliminators are what he is talking about and that is a very common thing to do. They are like $50 a set and make it nice if you change the exhaust on your car and do not want to go buy a programmer. There is no need for a programmer for just an exhaust but to get rid of the code it will throw you need the MIL Elims.

[cobraboy325]

I know what he is talking about
CB

[Fastrnu]

I'm running the x-cal2 and it works great. Its actually the tuners package. I bought a wideband, read the sct tuner manual and started tuning. It data logs everything you need to know and more. I feel it is very user friendly.