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Kafn8td
07-01-2004, 10:43 AM
In todays "Red" Star Tribune - 2004 Mustang Cobra, Mystic Chrome, hard to find. Only 58 mi $28,999 Metropolitan Ford #d23018 1-800-209-2949

58 miles? WTF! $28,999? double WTF? I'm still on vaca, I'm gonna cruise over and check it out...

Kafn8td
07-01-2004, 11:08 AM
Nevermind...From their website -


Vehicle 2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT
Bodystyle 2 Dr Coupe
Color Mystic Chrome
Mileage 77 Miles
Engine 4.6 liter 8 Cyl. Fuel Injected
Transmission 6 Speed Manual
Warranty Yes
Brian Ward 888-253-2016 $ 38,777 - Payment Calculator

VIN # 1FAFP48Y64F171156
Stock# R1011A6

Internet Dept. Price Only
Hard To Find

DNeinstadt
07-01-2004, 12:01 PM
Sure as hell looks like a Mystichrome. Just for knowledge's sake, the MSRP is 38,800. That's what I ended up paying. I'd find out if it was USED or NEW. Nonetheless.... good deal!

Dan

Blackcoog
07-01-2004, 12:52 PM
It is law that they have to sell it for that price ($28K) if it was advertised as that. You should go and demand that price. I guess it happens all the time. Then the delear recoups the cost by sueing the advertising company.

Shooter
07-01-2004, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by DNeinstadt
Sure as hell looks like a Mystichrome. Just for knowledge's sake, the MSRP is 38,800. That's what I ended up paying. I'd find out if it was USED or NEW. Nonetheless.... good deal!

Dan

It'll be used. Metropolitan is not a cert dealer of SVT cars. They can only sell used SVT's out of that location.

Supersonic
07-01-2004, 02:06 PM
I am not a lawyer, but I have watched enough Peoples Court and Judge Judy to know that the dealership has no obligation to sell the car for $28k just because that is what a classified ad shows. Typos are not legally enforceable. No contract has been entered into. Both the seller and the buyer have to agree on a price either on paper or verbally before a contract exists. Once that happens, you have something that is legally enforceable.

A classified ad is simply an offer to sell, and the offer can change at anytime. At best it could be called false advertising, but even that is a stretch unless it can be proved that the it was done intentionally to mislead.

As long as the ad was done in "good faith", it is simply a mistake.

Target may honor a $1.50 typo in the Sunday ads to keep its customers happy, but a car dealer is not going to lose 10k over a typo in a classified section and if the Star Tribune was held accountable for every mistake in the classified's, it would be "out of print" in no time at all.


This ends today's Legal Lesson :grin:

Kafn8td
07-01-2004, 02:37 PM
Ok here's the scoop - They bought it at an auction. The car is from California and the owner of the dealership drove it. The sale price in the window is $39,999! Talked with Greg Gilbertson, real nice guy but he said the car had like 70K on it! I should've checked, because I don't think it's possible to put that many miles on an 04 Cobra (even in Cali). Called back to verify the mileage and was told it's like 74 miles. Paint is perfect (no rock chips in fornt) and tires are F1's like new. Warranty buy back maybe? Repo?

wysiwyg
07-01-2004, 03:36 PM
It is a Mystic but the price on their website states $38,777.

:scram:

SSHFTY1
07-03-2004, 01:05 AM
what's a mystic..:confused: :confused: sounds like a sweet car.

Kafn8td
07-03-2004, 08:36 AM
It's kinda a purple color...you probably wouldn't like it:tongue:

punch
07-03-2004, 06:14 PM
Mystics are rice.

I'd rather have a 10th anniv cobra anyday.

SSHFTY1
07-04-2004, 11:49 PM
me too.:scram:

Cobrizo
07-05-2004, 06:38 PM
Yeah, me too! :grin: :eek:

John M
07-05-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Supersonic
I am not a lawyer, but I have watched enough Peoples Court and Judge Judy to know that the dealership has no obligation to sell the car for $28k just because that is what a classified ad shows.

I wanna give a Shout Out to my boy, Judge Larry Joe (Texas Justice) and dont forget my main man who came from the hood, Judge Joe Brown http://www.gmvsford.com/forums/images/smilies/pimpin.gif

Tommy
07-07-2004, 07:19 PM
I will say that I have run into a few guys that have bought cars from metropolitan and have found out the cars have been through the ringer and have had some things fixed. Can someone find the guy that had his wrecked recently and get the VIN? Just a heads up, it could be legit but it may also be a rebuilder.

Kafn8td
07-07-2004, 07:34 PM
Hey Tommy do an oasis on the Vin and let us know

VIN # 1FAFP48Y64F171156

John M
07-07-2004, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Kafn8td
Hey Tommy do an oasis on the Vin and let us know

VIN # 1FAFP48Y64F171156

Was originally sold buy Diablo Lincoln Mercury(Concord,CA) on 6/1/04 with 585 miles :confused: the only service that has been done is Pre Delivery Inspection and that was on 4/24/04 but it says the car had 5 miles. The car was born on 1/14/04 (I think thats the 1st day plant was back in operation after Christmas Break) IMO thats a good thing, the guys/gals were all fresh and rested and prolly wouldnt be cutting corners. Thats all Oasis shows, somebody might try a carfax if they think its fishy.

Tommy
07-07-2004, 08:11 PM
Metro shows 77 miles but sale mileage is listed as 586. Hmmm something smells.

Tommy
07-07-2004, 08:12 PM
OASIS RESULT:
1FAFP48Y64F171156
.See bottom of the OASIS result for contact ID
07/07/2004
21:08:10
© Copyright 2002-3 Ford Motor Company. All rights reserved.

VEHICLE INFORMATION
VEHICLE DESCRIPTION
2004 MUSTANG BODY STYLE
2 DOOR COBRA COUPE ENGINE
4.6L DOHC EFI SC
TRANSMISSION
6 SPD TREMEC ASM T56 AXLE CODE
TE ENGINE CALIBRATION
4ZE2SC0A
GENERAL WARRANTY INFORMATION
WARRANTY START DATE
06/01/2004 BUILD DATE
01/14/2004 SALE MILEAGE
00586
WARNING MESSAGES
LESS THAN TWO DEALER APPROVED AWA REPAIR VISITS PAID TO DATE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

INCLUDES SVT PREMIUM SERVICE: LOANER-WASH-VACUUM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

VERIFY STATE REGISTRATION, VIN MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR CALIFORNIA EMISSIONS WTY
OUTSTANDING FIELD SERVICE ACTIONS
NO CAMPAIGN MESSAGE(S) FOUND
EXTENDED COVERAGES
NO ESP INFORMATION AVAILABLE
REPAIR HISTORY

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

04/24/2004

DEALER: Diablo Lincoln-Mercury Inc
WARRANTY CLAIM NUMBER: 073516 ODOMETER: 000005M
PART NUMBER PART DESCRIPTION QUANTITY
LABOR OP
CONDITION CODE
CONDITION DESC
000 OSL


END OF OASIS REPORT FOR 1FAFP48Y64F171156

silversnake
07-07-2004, 10:08 PM
Hey guys -

Anybody recall that story about the guy with the Mystichrome that got the whole front torn off by a Honda. Wasn't that a CA car?

Could it have been totalled by the Insurance Company and shipped East? Maybe to a state that didn't require reporting the repair or maybe the system hasn't caught up with the car?

Just speculating, but this is a funny smelling deal, and the dog just don't hunt.

Dave

Kafn8td
07-08-2004, 08:10 PM
I recall the story, but wouldn't the Oasis show that it had been in fo repairs?

silversnake
07-08-2004, 08:22 PM
Rick,

Not necessarily - getting stuff into the register takes some time. Depending on the how/when of this whole thing - It's just possible that everything is not as it seems here.

I'm especially intrigued by the issue Tommy pointed out about the discrepancy in the mileage - 586 at first sale vs. 77 now. Unless somebody drove a hell of long way in reverse!!!!!!!

John M
07-08-2004, 11:55 PM
Oasis is only Fords system and shows work that Ford has done. If you want to see how many times and what states the vehicle has been registered in, you need a Carfax. Carfax also shows any insurance claims and gives a discription and amount of $$ on the claims.

BenBrausen
07-10-2004, 04:02 PM
There is no obligation to sell at the posted price, legally the price listed is just considered "an offer to bargin". Some businesses will sell items they mispriced for that price but they are in no way required to do so. If that was true I'd be drivin' the Mach 1 with 4200miles they listed for $20k.

wysiwyg
07-12-2004, 03:29 PM
CarFax histroy states the following

01/14/2004 - shipped to dealer
03/31/2004 - Michigan title issued
06/01/2004 - Auto Auction Pacific Region listed as a manufacturer vehicle

Tommy
07-12-2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by wysiwyg
CarFax histroy states the following

01/14/2004 - shipped to dealer
03/31/2004 - Michigan title issued
06/01/2004 - Auto Auction Pacific Region listed as a manufacturer vehicle
Copy and paste the whole thing. There should be a lot more info than just delivery dates. It is peculiar that it was sent to the west coast to sell. Seems like all the Metropolitan cars come from there. Most of them have "factory buy backs" on them.

SSHFTY1
07-13-2004, 12:06 AM
i did a little snooping around and my sources tell me that the car is really a lark personel scooter, smeone needs to check this out.:grin:

Kafn8td
07-29-2004, 06:26 PM
FYI - they owered the price down to $36,xxx. a few g's more and I'm there.

silversnake
07-29-2004, 11:00 PM
Rick -

Don't you dare let go of that red vert without calling me first!!!!!

I don't know if you're serious, but my guess is that given the difference in value between your red one and mine - I could talk my wife into the wisdom or trading-up to that red jewel.

Dave

DNeinstadt
07-30-2004, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by silversnake
Rick -

Don't you dare let go of that red vert without calling me first!!!!!

I don't know if you're serious, but my guess is that given the difference in value between your red one and mine - I could talk my wife into the wisdom or trading-up to that red jewel.

Dave

GET ER DONE!

SSHFTY1
07-30-2004, 02:11 PM
Oh yah baby give me some more rice. Do it Ricky